so fuck you.

Indeed. I've had enough polite discussion trying to explain to the ignorant fucks why their proposed course of action is/was retarded.

We were simply right. You were simply wrong. Whether you choose to admit it or not is of no concern. History will equal vindication. Laid out plainly, the facts point to the obvious...

Oook, I think I'm missing something here...

As if you wouldn't know whats going on

Its so obvious

:kekekegay

I blame Israel.

I blame New Zealand

What?

I blame New Zealand
I knew it, fuckin' kiwis :rant:

I blame Penguins!

I blame Earth!

Yes. Yes we were, but unfortunately liberals are still too callow to think of a better way than 'stay the course.'

Yes. Yes we were, but unfortunately liberals are still too callow to think of a better way than 'stay the course.'

Interesting. I thought liberals were into "cut and run."

I'd also like to see a "better way" from liberals and some Dems. Yet I'm not seeing dick, actually, other than saying we're losing, we need to cut and run, president bashing, bashing of our armed forces (from a select few), blah-blah-blah-fucking-blah.

That's fine, Mr. Dickface Liberal/Democrat, if you want to hold that position. But go ahead and lay out your plan to the American people about how to accomplish that goal, if Iraq is capable at this point in time of taking care of its own affairs, if they can govern themselves without their government imploding, are their security forces to the levels they need to be, the pros and cons of said action, other alternatives, et cetera, et cetera.

I guess it's just easier to pander to American sheeple and say "Let's cut and run folks." I mean, in all honesty, it's just that simple and there's no other considerations to our national security to take into consideration. :laugh:

Oh. And an American/Canadian can't be right, or a pot smoking hippie/prep from down in Cali, so fuck the both of you. I'm right. The old, stuped redneck from Texes.

Just the other day a senator even mentioned something that would solve this problem that I wrote on these forums a year or two ago, and brought up again recently, and would allow us to withdraw.

I hope the idea takes hold. It would not only make us look a little more legitimate in the Muslim world, but it would bring our boys home. We'll see what happens.

This thread is so fucking vague, as Gred likes to be, I'll be the same and see if anybody following world events knows what I'm speaking of. It's so simple, and obviously plausible, it's brilliant. When I mentioned it before a year or two back, somebody (and I remember your name) said it would never happen and thought I was "fucking retarded." Now it's being offered as an option. :wink:

I think the US has had zero credibility in the Middle East for about 230 years.

I think the US has had zero credibility in the Middle East for about 230 years.

We could never have "credibility" in the region. We're not anti-semitic enough, and we're a Christian nation. At least how they view us.

I wish we didn't depend so heavily on their oil and we could tell the lot of them to go fuck themselves and cut all ties to the region. Save, except, our continued support of Israel.

We need to let them continue to fight amongst themselves, as they've done for thousands of years, kill each other off, and let nature run her course.

arabs are semitic peoples too...

Would someone like to explain what is going on?

Yes. Yes we were, but unfortunately liberals are still too callow to think of a better way than 'stay the course.'



but that is the whole point, there is no course.

It is a lose/lose situation, so therefore withdraw the Western Forces- there isn't a hope in hell of Iraq stablizing, American and British soldiers are just cannon fodder. A writer once said "There is no future and there is no present, just the past repeating itself" how long will it take the right to realise that America has as much chance of liberalizing Iraq as making North Vietnam capitalist. America has proved time and time again that it has absolutely no understand of other ideologies and cultures, the notion of a free democracy, an embodiment of capitalist and free enterprise ideals- nothing Iraq has in common with. Look at it from the other perspective- a foreign coalition invades your Country, and wants to pursue a change in its national identity and way of life. Tell me, how would the American population respond to that?

Win-Win-Win is the best type of situation.

I'm really glad I know whats going on. Really.

Isn't calling someone a prep/hippie kinda contradictory?

but that is the whole point, there is no course.

It is a lose/lose situation, so therefore withdraw the Western Forces- there isn't a hope in hell of Iraq stablizing, American and British soldiers are just cannon fodder. A writer once said "There is no future and there is no present, just the past repeating itself" how long will it take the right to realise that America has as much chance of liberalizing Iraq as making North Vietnam capitalist. America has proved time and time again that it has absolutely no understand of other ideologies and cultures, the notion of a free democracy, an embodiment of capitalist and free enterprise ideals- nothing Iraq has in common with. Look at it from the other perspective- a foreign coalition invades your Country, and wants to pursue a change in its national identity and way of life. Tell me, how would the American population respond to that?

I think you're missing his point.... that or I missed it instead. Liberals in congress maintain the stay the course ideology that keeps us in Iraq as ardently as our conservatives in congress. Our politicians by and large aren't proposing alternate ideas. They're basically being mouth-breathing livestock with high salaries.

Did I ever mention I like being born on Guy Fawkes day?