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Team Brian GB
08-19-2006, 01:22 AM
This is a video worth watching, from the most outspoken MP in Westminster, berating the news presenter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbEv0T2rwgo

outsider
08-19-2006, 01:28 AM
that's some pwnage

Team Brian GB
08-19-2006, 02:07 AM
wait until you see this:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8866.htm

TheZenMan
08-19-2006, 03:59 AM
Silly Israelis, don't they know when it's time to die?

outsider
08-19-2006, 05:17 AM
Silly Israelis, don't they know when it's time to die?

Seems to me far more Lebanese have been killed in Lebanon than Israelis in Israel. Why is that?

TheZenMan
08-19-2006, 05:19 AM
Seems to me far more Lebanese have been killed in Lebanon than Israelis in Israel. Why is that?

Because it's true.

SpiderByte
08-19-2006, 11:20 PM
that's some pwnage

some major pwnage!

Tex
08-19-2006, 11:49 PM
Seems to me far more Lebanese have been killed in Lebanon than Israelis in Israel. Why is that?

Because Hezbollah isn't as well equipped militarily as Israel to fight in this war.

If Hezbollah, or any of the other radical groups in the region, had the military capabilities Israel had the numbers would be dramatically different and Israel probably wouldn't exist in today's world.

So, "why is that" you say? It's just plain common sense. But I'm sure you can't read this, right? :wink:

cursed74
08-20-2006, 05:51 AM
DIE JEW DIE

outsider
08-20-2006, 06:22 AM
DIE JEW DIE

Wow, didn't see that coming. What's next I'm anti-semitic?

It must be easy to hide behind shit like that instead of actually using your brain. From watching that video his daughter and I have the same birthday or close to each other because my birthday was the day they started bombing Lebanon back in 1980.

Use your brain next time you post cursed. I'm not the Jew hating shitdick you want to make me out to be. I just don't put them on a pedastel

TheZenMan
08-20-2006, 03:52 PM
I'm not sure what you guys mean by pwnage here.

This is one guys outspoken view of a very complex situation. He began the interview with a very defensive stance, as if the interviewer was insinuating he supported Hezbollah.

Well, doesn't he? He refers to them as a defensive aspect of Lebanon, not the terrorists they are. He's implying that Israel is the dominant attacking force and that they are the ones who seek to invade and exterminate Lebanon.

Well then, why don't they? They surly could, they have the means, even he pointed that out. So what's stopping them?

Anyway, he's just invalidating the interviewer telling here she's silly, absurd and just plain wrong. That's not pwnage of anything, it's just one more mistaken, ignorant view from a mouthy pissed off crybaby.

Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, nothing more. And anyone who needs to make Israel and the US out as the bad guy here is just nursing their own hate for current administration.

outsider
08-20-2006, 11:43 PM
Well actually he's using facts and brings up the long history of Israel invading Lebanon. He discusses the motives for Hezbollah to be attacking Israel, He discusses what Hezbollah leaders have talked about as things necessary for Hezbollah to stop attacking Israel and Isrealis.

Chief among those reasons he talks about are the thousands of Lebanese prisoners that Israel captured on Lebanese soil when Israel was occupying Lebanese land. If he was speaking today I'm sure he would also go into how Israel has begun attacking Lebanon again breaking the truce.

You can call Hezbollah anything you want right now. The fact right now is that they have gained popularity immensely since Israel has done what it's done. Israel is busy destroying their country, Hezbollah is helping those left homeless with food and money.

It has nothing to do with the USA on whether what Israel is doing is right or wrong Zen. George Bush isn't ordering Israeli forces to attack anyone. It's all on Israel's shoulders. But you can call him a pissed off crybaby if you want of course. He is busy using actual facts and looking at a broader picture than that newscaster and certainly you are currently observing.

TheZenMan
08-21-2006, 03:08 AM
I don't buy it.

That's just my opinion of course, but I don't consider anything he said about Hezbollah to be factual. Sure he may know history, but this is now and I think they're just winning the PR war. They know who their audience is and they're playing to them perfectly.

They're reptiles and should be treated as such. You're free to sympathize with them if you choose to. I'm not about to show them an ounce of mercy, and Israel should do the same.

outsider
08-21-2006, 03:16 AM
I know you don't buy it. You also have let us know that you won't believe anything from links which to me is why you won't buy it. Maybe you should take the time to look into who won the PR war with you since you appear to be to jaded to care why you think what you think.

You view the Arabs as the invaders and as reptiles and don't seem to allow yourself to be at all critical of what Israel is doing to Lebanon. More Lebanese die in Lebanon than Israelis in Israel in this fight because go figure, Israel is the invading force.

Regular Lebanese get killed more than any Hezbollah militants and that is clear no matter the news source.

TheZenMan
08-21-2006, 03:23 AM
I'm not disputing the facts, just telling you how I see it. I look at many things, I just don't consider every article or report to be trustworthy. I do the best I can with what's out there. I can post links to things that support my view just as you can. The truth is the truth though. Both sides can't be right, so I chose one.

Yes more Lebanese are dying, Israel is a more powerful force. It's gona get a lot worse too.

HaloGuardian
08-21-2006, 03:26 AM
Both sides can't be right, so I chose one.


1. You are assuming both "sides" are opposing each other.

2. You are assuming 1 side is right, when both are wrong.

TheZenMan
08-21-2006, 03:28 AM
1. You are assuming both "sides" are opposing each other.

2. You are assuming 1 side is right, when both are wrong.

Hezbollah Vs Israel is not an assumption.

And yes I know both are wrong, but I still chose. I fail to see a third option.

HaloGuardian
08-21-2006, 03:30 AM
None of the above.

TheZenMan
08-21-2006, 03:31 AM
None of the above.

What?

outsider
08-21-2006, 03:34 AM
I'm not disputing the facts, just telling you how I see it. I look at many things, I just don't consider every article or report to be trustworthy. I do the best I can with what's out there. I can post links to things that support my view just as you can. The truth is the truth though. Both sides can't be right, so I chose one.

Yes more Lebanese are dying, Israel is a more powerful force. It's gona get a lot worse too.

Articles that support your view, alright then, go for it. I'll be more than happy to fill in he blanks that they likely leave out.

More Lebanese are dying then Israelis because Lebanese aren't really attacking Israel, yet Israelis are sure attacking the Lebanese as well as Hezbollah.

Israel has broken the ceasefire and is attacking even deeper into Lebanon. Quite frankly I do think that the Lebanese have every right to attack every Israeli in their country as an occupying force to expel them.

The Israeli government is trying to prevent the Lebanon Army from policing its borders yet at the same time accusing Lebanon of not policing its borders as justification to prepare for another round of war. Israel is not working for peace in any way shape or form right now. They are being reptiles to an equal or greater degree than anyone in Lebanon.